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The statement "diversity is our strength" actually works when it comes to Linux.
Nice. Btw, I use Arch 🙂
Debian has rolling releases too, just use the 'unstable' branch. It's still a really stable OS, just the package versions are unstable.
I tested Manjaro on VM and i like it, but i still use Debian Testing on my laptop and i find it good compromise between stability and being up to date.
Great video as usual Chris we are lucky in this community to have access to your research, passion and knowledge.
I am 4 years down the Linux rabbit hole (work, study, art, and gaming). I use Kali 2020, Manjaro and PoP OS on different systems and by far the most boring (even though it is a sexy distro) due to never-failing or having anything for me to complain about and working straight out of the box including all my drivers and graphics cards is PoP OS.
From my experience, Manjaro (and I assume arch?) is the best if you need those apps to run on Linux that "apparently" run on Linux …but only if run on a distro that largely is meh. However, I have broken poor Manjaro so many times that I don't quite trust my self around it.. it's me Manjaro, not you ( maybe I should try Vanilla Arch?) .
Kali is for pentesting obviously and not a recommended even by Offensive Security as a daily driver though I have used 2020 on hardware and on multiple VMs without an issue and it is rock solid stable from my side of the fence although I haven't tried anything outside pentesting really ie video editing.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
start from ubuntu (you should respect this guy make linux community bigger ) , fedora , mint ,fedora , manjero ,debian , arch
Manjaro Cinnamon on my laptop, Manjaro KDE on my mini PC, Arch Cinnamon in Virtualbox. all working great
i jumped into linux 2 yeras ago, i've been using mint and i love it but i want to learn more. i just want to know all about linux and i woud like to try arch. maybe my main SSD with mint and another one just tu tiker with arch and kali. advice??
today is my first day with arch after 2 years of vanilla debian and 5 years of macos but i can't understend why you said arch is easier to install ?
I'm actually a huge fan of starting with the latest Ubuntu server install (currently using 20.04 daily), manually installing gnome, gdm3, gnome-tweaks (just for dash to panel) and a few other things. I have an old MBP that idles at 600 to 700 MB of RAM used, looks pretty nice, and runs great.
debian – if it works, stick with it.
arch – whatever is latest, i must have it.
Tried to run both, Manjaro and Ubuntu 20.04 in dual boot. Problem is Ubuntu or other Debian based DEs over-write Manjaros grub with their own and you can only boot Manjaro with the fallback option. It can be fixed, but it will always recur whenever Ubuntu has an update.
You n00b
Better use Slackware or try to use pentest as daily driver and be a elite hacker
i like mint because its very easy to make usable for me but i still have widows on this pc some games dont work right on linux without some terminal help that im not good at yet but im trying to get better
Do you do any CNC'ing?
I can count on Debian to start everytime.
Glad I found this. I appreciate that you're outlining the main differences so clearly w/o obsessing. Useful information.
centos/fedora. real linux.
Debian is potentially new user friendly but also has a steeper learning curve than, say, Ubuntu. The installer can be silly but that said Debian is my favourite, especially with experience or digging around. That said I am curious about Arch but I used to distro hop a ton so I'd rather avoid that!
How about fedora32 ? I found it amusing
I started using Arch back in 2005 when it was a very niche distribution. My patience ran out by mid 2013 when I jumped over to Debian stable. I have never looked back. Arch was such a pain in the butt. Every update would break the system and I would spend hours fixing buggy packages instead of getting work done (which is what an operating system is for). Arch? No, thank you.
I`m running both distros but Arch makes the impossible become true
i love arch, but not easy to get a vpn in China.
nice microphone, you should sing into it haha
We have a very similar experience. I've been an Ubuntu user for many years. I tried Manjaro (Arch-based) out of curiosity and I ended up using it permanently. To be clear I still love Ubuntu and I still have it on other machines, but Manjaro has become so user-friendly it rivals any user-friendly Ubuntu distro. I find there's more useful packages on Manjaro, the main repos are more or less the same with Ubuntu but Manjaro's community repo has a lot of packages I can't find on Ubuntu.
If I have one critique it's the rolling updates as you already mentioned. I tend to perform more downgrades on Manjaro everytime an update bugs out.
Okay, maybe I'll try Arch 🙂 (Off to the "How to Make Arch Linux Stable…" video now.
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My best choice is debian testing + arch using bedrock linux
Me sitting over here still trying to figure out how to PCIe passthrough on Manjaro 😔 just trying to run the new Call of Duty instead of reinstalling Windows. I like the workflow better on Arch than Debian but Debian's pretty chill too. KDE all the way B)
Debian + KDE plasma
holy shit that stvoy gui or screensaver looks great
Debian all the way!!!
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Been on both,a good middle ground is Debian Testing,the why,because a lot of stuff for gaming as well is done in such a way that Debian-based distributions come first because of Ubuntu,Mint,etc.Arch is awesome for the packagae magaer and getting the latest and greatest,not that hard to install,but when it comes to compatibility and stablility,Debian-Testing seems like a good choice for going with the balance of half-rolling and stable at the same time.With that said both distros are great if more stuff would be less Debian-based and with prioritizing Arch for example I would go with Arch completely,but for now we are not there yet.I mean you can use Arch and you can use Gentoo or Slackware or even Solus,but keep in mind that Steam OS is based on Debian Jessie. So when it comes to gaming Debian users will have better experience than other distro users and its not just about the configuration,its about compatibility still I like pacman more than aptitude,but had to switch to Debian Testing for compatibility reasons,btw there are 440.59 Nvidia drivers on debian testing already same as on Arch. As long as you don't use gnome latest all should work fine.)))
I think your wrong here about Arch (in my opinion) My experience with it is quite negative. -Well, I had been using Debian. I recently tried Arch to see what Manjaro was all about. The forum and community has been well promoted and claims to be the best community. I am here to say that this was not my impression at all. So consequently, I will no longer be using Manjaro and will be reverting back to Debian. I wanted to install Davinci Resolve on Manjaro and despite all the resources, I determined that it was impossible. "Ease of use" ….NO! Not at all! So I went to the community forum (Manjaro) wondering why this installation is not possible. This was my first post on this forum. A moderator "Dalto" that same day in just a matter of hours, determined that he/she didn't like the presentation of my post, even though there were no rules broken, no offending tone or such and didn't allow for me to respond to comments on my post that could have chipped away at the frustration. So this moderator arbitrarily closed my thread/posting. I was pretty offended at the capriciousness of this individual and as a result, have a very bad taste in mouth about using Manjaro and it's so called great community.
I started with Ubuntu and thought it was pretty meh. I recently moved to Arch and loved it. There's a certain elegance to Arch that I didn't get with Ubuntu. Pacman is great. The ability to pick and choose exactly what you want to install is empowering and forces me to choose my software and not just take what I'm given. I find the Wiki easy to understand but only if I understand the concept before reading the page. If I don't have some knowledge of the subject prior to looking at the Wiki, I have to recursively read other pages and that gets tiresome when I'm just looking for a simple answer.
I've used both vanilla debian and arch with kde plasma. I did prefer arch until I had a problem I couldn't solve on my own, and in asking for help I quickly learned that a lot of arch users are fucking assholes. It was the least helpful help forum I've ever seen. Just snarky comments from dudes who haven't left their mom's basement in years who get off on feeling smart from making things difficult for folks who maybe don't live on their computers…so, long story long, I switched back to debian. Heh
Arch. I can't come back to Debian after using the AUR.